A moronic La-Madhabi website says:
Ahle hadeeth means the follower of Hadeeth. Ahlur Rai means the follower of Rai (human wisdom). Those who seek solutions of all problems of life on the basis of the holy Quran and saheeh Hadeeth are known as Ahle hadeeth.On the other hand… those who take solutions of the problems of life from Fiqhi Usool i.e. the formulas of practical laws made by any earlier scholar, they, according to Shah Waliullah, are known as Ahlur Rai. They do not seek Hadeeth of the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) and Athar of Sahaba in making solutions to any problem, rather they try to solve it by making comparison with any Fiqhi decision or any Fiqhi principle given by an earlier Mujtahid Faqeeh and bring out its various branches and sub-branches with the help of Qias i.e. analogical method.
Our Comment: This is a big lie from the La-Madhabi’s part that he says Ahlur Rai never use Hadith nor athar but just qiyas, the more bigger lie is that this statement is falsely attributed to a great scholar like Shah Waliullah Muhaddith Dehlwi (rahimahullah), such fake claim only proves that the la-Madhabi’s are deceivers and nothing else!.
RESPONSE: In Reality, Shah Waliullah (rahimahullah) describes exactly the opposite of what the misguided la-madhabi has claimed.
Shah Waliullah (rahmatullah alayh) is among the greatest Muhadditheen of the Ummat. He is the Musnidul Hind i.e. all the Sanads of Hadeeth in the sub-continent pass through him. To lend weight to their cause, the Ghair Muqallids of Hind claim that Shah Saahib was like them. This is a common ploy of these types. In this way they try to mislead simple-minded Muslims.
And listen! Those of you who are not linked to the Ulama are at risk of being misled by these chancers – Anyhow, to set it straight, in Hujjatullaahul Baalighah, he has written on the topic in great detail. He wrote about the two schools: the “Ahlur Ra’i” and the “Ahlul Hadeeth” and who they are.
The Imaams of the ‘Ahlur Rai’ are Imaam Sha’bi, Ibraaheem Nakha’ee, Auzaa’ee, Ibn Abi Laila, Shubrumah, Abu Hanifah and his students (rahimahumullah).
The Imaams of the Ashaabul Hadeeth are The 7 Fuqahaa of Madeenah, Imaam Maalik, Shaafi’ee, Ahmad, Sufyaan Thauree, Ibn Mubaarak (rahimahumullah) etc.
The Importance of Taqleed:
The Fiqh of the Ahlur Rai was then codified by Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahimahullah). After this there was no great Ikhtilaaf among this group.
The Ashaabul Hadeeth had many differences in their Fiqh among themselves. Several Madhabs originated among them. With the passage of time, these Madhabs then evolved and were incorporated into three. In this way, four Madhabs were codified and accepted. These four Madhaahib in turn encompassed all the Ilm of the Aimmah and the various Fataawah (Rulings) of the Sahaabah. Taqleed of the four Imaams was then unanimously accepted by the ’Ijmaa of the Ummat.
There is great wisdom and protection in this Taqleed.
After this, Shah Saahib (rahimahullah) writes:
“People should beware, and not confuse the Ashaabul Hadeeth mentioned above with the present day newly emerged sect who call themselves the Ahlul Hadeeth. The Ahlul Hadeeth of today are very much similar to the Zaahiriyyah sect of the earlier period. These people are the Laa Madhabiyyah and Ghair Muqallideen. They do not accept the Ijmaa’ of the Sahaabah and the Aimmah, nor the Aathaar (sayings and actions) of the Sahaabah, nor do they accept Qiyaas (analogical reasoning) as a Hujjat in Deen. These are not part of the Ashaabul Hadeeth.”
In another Kitaab, ‘Al Aqdul Jayyid’, he has dealt with this subject in detail.
Salafiyyat – A deception: In more recent times, these Ghair Muqallids have taken on a new name i.e. ‘Salafi’. So they have presented the same old thing in a new guise. Many fresh and free youngsters have fallen into their trap and the group suddenly gained a fresh wind – and, as with most deviant groups, the bulk of their followers are ignorant masses. The common layman cannot understand the finer details of Usool Ad Deen (the principles of Deen). Anything presented to him will be swallowed. This is because he cannot judge these things in the light of Ilm due to lack of it. This is how falsehood spreads among the So these are two paths in front of us; One is a new way, invented by ‘enlightened mushrooms’ of this belated age – the other is an attested path, laid down by men who were oceans of Ilm and mountains of Taqwa. The ‘Muqallideen’ are the followers of the Aslaaf (pious predecessors) and are thus the true “Salafis”. The Ghair Muqallid crowd are on a path of their own. They have opposed the Aslaaf at every turn. They have hijacked the term Salafi in a most deceptive way – And a strange world it is.
Differences in understanding Nusoos
Understanding Qur’an and Hadeeth correctly is not the work of every doctor, professor and cabbage farmer! This is a very deep and specialized field. There is no shortcut in this path. And it is impossible to lay claim to Itaa’at (obedience) of Allaah and His Rasul (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) without following the great Aimmah of the past.
Here is one example:
The differences in the method of Iqaamah: There is a Hadeeth: “Bilaal (radhiyallahu anha) was ordered to say the Adhaan in two’s (evenly) and the Iqaamat in one’s (odd no.)
According to Imaam Shaafi’ee and Ahmad (rahimahumullah), it means to say the words of Iqaamat once each, but ‘Qad Qaamatis Salaat’ will be said twice. (the Takbeers will be said twice).
According to Imaam Maalik (rahimahullah) even ‘Qad Qaamah’ will be said once.
Imaam Abu Haneefah (rahimahullah) says the meaning of the Hadeeth is to say every set of words in one breath. The further Daleel (proof) is the Riwaayat (narrations) in Abu Dawood reported by Abu Mahdhoorah who was appointed as Muadhin in Makkah. He says that Nabi (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) taught him to say the Iqaamah in 17 sentences.
The Hanafis thus practice upon both Ahaadeeth in this way.
The other thing is that the other A’immah, according to their prescribed method of Iqaamah are not practicing on the first Hadeeth either because the Takbeer and Qad-Qaamah are both said twice.
This is how differences in understanding Nass come about.
Some of the Imaams practice on ‘Asahhu maa fil Baab’ the most Saheeh Hadeeth in the chapter. Imaam Abu Haneefah’s method is of Tatbeeq and Jama’ (reconciling Ahaadeeth and practicing upon all the Ahaadeeth in question).
Our difference with the Ghair Muqallids
So one of our fundamental differences with the Ghair Muqallideen is that they do not accept the Ijmaa’ (consensus of opinion) of Ummat as a Hujjat (proof). They are ardent Muqallids of their Ghair Muqallid Ulama. For all the hue and cry against Taqleed, they are the most hardline Muqallids themselves. All the fuss is nothing but a plot to create confusion among the Muslims and thus take them off their objective i.e. Amal (practice)
No getting around Taqleed:
Listen! In all fields of life, pertaining to Deen or Dunya, there is no getting around Taqleed. Call it what you will, every person is a Muqallid in his field. The question is whose Taqleed – so in the matter of Deen, you will either have to follow the mainstream Ahlus
Sunnah and the true Salafis i.e. one of the four Madhabs or else you have the option of following these self-styled scholars who reject the Aathaar of Sahaabah and the Ijmaa’ of the believers.
The Ahle Hadeeth:
One group claimed to be Ahle Qur’an. This term is deceptive. They are not people of Qur’an. We are the people of Qur’an. They are a group who reject Hadeeth and Ijmaa’ while claiming to follow Qur’aan.
Similar is the case of the Ahle Hadeeth. We are the followers of Hadeeth. They claim to accept Qur’aan and Hadeeth while rejecting the Aathaar and Ijmaa’ of Sahaabah. It does not mean that they follow Hadeeth while we follow our Imaams and not Hadeeth.
Go and have a look in the Islamic Libraries! The Imaams, their Ustaads and their students have authored all the major Kitaabs on Hadeeth. Let the Ghair Muqallids present any reputable work on Hadeeth! The entire treasury of Hadeeth that is before the Ummat today is the fruit of the toil of the Muqallideen. These fellows then came along and either plagiarized the works of others or added their unwanted side notes and useless commentaries on the great works of the Ulamaa.
The Ghair Muqallid/ Salafi/ Ahle Hadeeth are sects who accept Qur’an and Hadeeth only. They do not accept the Ijmaa’ of the Sahaabah nor the Ijmaa’ of the Ahlus Sunnah. They will not admit this directly, but have a look at their Madhab – it will shine forth brighter than daylight.
Exactly the same is the case of the confounded Qadiyani sect. They will never negate the Khatme Nabuwwah openly. They say Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) is Khaatamul Ambiyaa – then they say Ghulaam Ahmad is also a Rasul! So they invent their own concept of Khatme Nabuwwat. Neither here nor there. Just like all the others… Again have a look at their works.
The Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa’ah:
We are the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa’ah. Remember this!
We follow the path of Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) and His companions – the way of the Khulafaa e rashideen. This encompasses all that is in the Qur’an and Hadeeth in the most complete way. This way was handed down to us by our Imaams who were the safe guarders and trustees of the Ilm of Nabuwwah.
We follow the Qur’an, the Rasul and the path of the Mu’mineen.
“And whoever opposes the Rasul after the Guidance has become clear to him, and follows a way other than that of the Mu’mineen, we shall allow him to do what he does and then we shall throw him into hell – and it is the worst abode”
(Surah An Nisaa – 115)