Why The Mujlisul Ulama’ has “Harsh/Rude Attitude”??

We keep getting Messages and mails on why Majlisul Ulama (from whom we share most of our Articles) are “Rude in tone” “Harsh” “Humiliating” etc etc…

The Head of Majlisul Ulama, Maulana Ahmad Sadeq Desai (Daamat Barakatuhum) himself answers the Question in the topic:

Respected Brother,
Your e-mail dated 12 March 2011  refers.

While we do not answer letters  questioning our attitude and  methodology, we shall go this extra mile to assist you to  understand reality.

People who have no real  intention of following the Deen, present the excuse of ‘harsh attitude’ and ‘akhlaaq’ to justify  their misdeeds. With this red  herring they deflect the minds of  people from the problem and the  corruption.

For example, when a Molvi engages in prayers, sits in a  church under twelve crosses alongside priests these critics do not see the harshness and the  lack of akhlaaq and the kufr of  this practice. But when someone  criticizes the kufr, he is reviled on the basis of his ‘harshness’.

When molvies commit capital  kufr by abrogating the ahkaam  of the Shariah with their kufr MMB, people accept such harsh perpetration of kufr, But when  we criticize this perpetration, we  are reviled for being ‘too harsh’.  Furthermore, what you are  blissfully unaware of is that our  ‘harsh attitude’ is instituted after  all other methods of consulting  and convincing the miscreants  have failed.

When they are not prepared to  listen and meaningfully discuss  in privacy, then our ‘harsh’ attitude becomes Waajib, nay  Fardh

Since all of these critics enjoy the haraam activities which the  molvies have halaalized nowadays, they try to justify and  defend the evil practices and the  errant molvies. But in the process  of doing so they are unable to  refute our arguments. They only  harp on our attitude and  methodology. In this way they  detract attention from the  problem.

Our attitude is commensurate  with the crime. If our tone  appears to be ‘too harsh’, then their crime is too vile. The  attitude is the effect of the  villainy of the sin.

Most people fail to understand  the permissibility, efficacy and necessity  of  the  ‘harsh’ attitude  because they lack knowledge of  the variety of attitudes  among  the Ambiya and Sahaabah. While  they the harp on one dimension  of Rasulullah’s attitude, they are  ignorant or deliberately blind to  the other ‘harsh’ dimension which dictated even gourging out the eyes of criminals. They forget  that in Daarul Islam the  consequence of the type of kufr they are perpetrating nowadays is execution with the sword. We do  not know if execution with the sword is ‘too harsh’ or within the  confines of ‘good akhlaaq’. We do not know if whipping the public  is perhaps ‘too harsh’ or not  within the limits of ‘good  akhlaaq’.

Once Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi  wasallam) remarked to a person who looked into the house, that  he felt like throwing a scissors into his eyes. Nabi (sallallahu  alayhi wasallam) said that hot iron rods will be inserted into the  eyes of a man who looks at the  beauty of a strange woman. Are  these comments perhaps ‘too  harsh’, and do they not form part  of ‘good akhlaaq’.

Nabi Musa (alayhis salaam)  without making the slightest investigation to establish the factual position grabbed hold of  the hair and beard of Nabi Haaroon (alayhis salaam), his elder brother, and violently shook  him. Allah Ta’ala did not upbraid  him for this act. Allah Ta’ala upheld it. Was his violent act against his elder, Nabi brother perhaps ‘too harsh’. Was his  action beyond the confines of  ‘good akhlaaq’?

When the Qur’aan and Rasulullah  (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) describe the believers and doers  of immorality and kufr to be kaafiroon, fasiqoon, faajiroon,  jaahiloon, munaafiqoon, etc., are these epithets ‘too harsh’ and  beyond the confines of  ‘good akhlaaq’?

Is the halaalizing and consumption of rotten, diseased  haraam carrion a tolerable deed?  Is it not ‘too harsh’ to make  halaal what that Allah has made haraam’. Does ‘good akhlaaq’  allow that we feed carrion and poison to your children? If your  beloved child is about to ingest a lethal poison and we who are  observing this suicidal act leave  the child to consume the poison  because he/she refuses to accept  our soft an ‘akhlaaqi’ approach to abstain from the poison will you  praise and commend us for our  ‘good akhlaaq’ and not abstain  from adopting ‘too harsh a tone’,  when you see the dead body of  your dead because we contented child – dead because of the poison and we contented ourselves with ‘good akhlaaq’? Or will you praise shower on us other rewards if we had harshly grabbed your child’s hand and rudely snatched the  poison from his  hand and left him kicking up a  tantram like Sanha and Radio Shaitaan?

Once when a molvi said that he  felt like becoming a Christian, Hadhrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (rahmatullah alayh) gave  him a full and a hard clout full in  the face and shouted at him: ‘Shaitaan! Get away and become  a Christian!’ Those who have read  the writings of Hadhrat Thanvi  can testify to his ‘too harsh’ attitude. So ‘harsh’ was his  attitude and methodology that even The Majlis would not have  become his mureed if it (The  Majlis) had existed if during    Hadhrat’s lifetime.  Was the  action and attitude of Hadhrat Hakeemul Ummat then ‘too rude’ and beyond the confines of ‘good  akhlaaq’ merely because we may not be able to tolerate it?

Hadhrat Gangohi (rahmatullah  alayh) said in his fatwa that  those who believe against and propagate against polygamy like  the MMB crowd, will ‘hang upside  down in Jahannum’; they are ‘kaafirs, murtads, enemies of Allah, enemies of the Rasool, etc..etc. Was his attitude ‘too harsh’ and beyond the limits of ‘good akhlaaq’?

Brother, we can write a volume of  examples from the lives of the  Ambiya, Rasulullah (sallallahu  alayhi wasallam), the Sahaabah  and the Auliya to show the  beloved ‘harsh attitude’ which by  Allah Azza Wa Jal is an act of  ibaadat of the highest merit. You  will not hesitate to permit the  doctor to treat you harshly by  stabbing into your body and  cutting you up and opening up  your heart to save you from the  disease which threatens to destroy you. Because you understand physical and worldly  benefits, you will praise and reward the doctor who had  treated you harshly. But since deep down in your heart Deeni  benefit is an insignificant issue, the ‘harsh/ rude/ insulting attitude’ argument is a  convenient scape-goat for  justifying the maladies of kufrfisq and fujoor. But when we  adopt ‘harsh attitudes’ to  operate on Muslims who are  suffering from spiritual cancer  and spiritual Aids, then there is a  clamour of baseless criticism. People should look at their  crimes and their harsh attitudes  of pride and arrogance, not at  our ‘harsh’ remedial attitude. The problem, disease and cancer are their sins while our ‘harsh’ attitude is the medicine and the  cure for the malignant cancer devouring their hearts, souls and  bodies.

A.S.  Desai

For Mujlisul Ulama of S.A.

The view of Mufti Ebrahim Desai on Mujlisul Ulama

The editor of the Majlis, Hazrath Moulana Ahmad Sadeck Desai Saheb Madda Zilluhu is an Aalim of a very high calibre. He has a deep understanding of Shariah. This is clearly gauged from his innumerable publications. Hazrath Moulana is the Khalifa of Hazrath Maseehullah Khan Saheb rahmatullah alayh. Hazrath has been selflessly dedicated to Amal bil Maroof and Nahi Anil Munkar for the past few decades. Hazrath is also engaged in various other activities. It is surprising how much one person can do. Allah has granted Hazrath great courage and strength. He is a person of high level of taqwa and mujahadah. He does not go after position and fame. If that was the case, Hazrath would not have selflessly and openly condemned many wrongs and evils for the fear of becoming unpopular. Many people throughout the world continue to benefit from Hazrath Moulana’s publications.

Television is haraam and we concur with Hazrath’s view on that. It is possible that the different radio stations err in some issues. If Hazrath points that out, it should be accepted and corrected. It is incorrect to brand Hazrath of being over extreme when he is fulfilling his obligation on Nahi Anil Munkar. Those that claim that Hazrath is extreme, what is their measure to claim that? If people violate the laws of Shariah and Hazrath rightfully condemns that, how can that be extremism? What do such people expect Hazrath to do? Keep quiet? What will that be then? Complacence, which is a sin.

It should also be pointed out that differences of opinions among academics is regarded as academic honesty. This is common even among academics in secular qualifications. The different views among the Ulama, based on academics is a mercy upon the ummah and should be tolerated. If other Ulama have differing views from Hazrath’s views and both are based on academic substantiations, then it will be incorrect to brand any one view as being an extreme view. While we concur with Hazrath on the issue of television and open wrongs of television and radio stations, we may differ with him on other issues. However, we will respect his view and tolerate it as Hazrath’s views are generally substantiated by Shariah.

If anyone claims to have an academically different opinion and he does not stand up to the academic challenges made to him, that is academic dishonesty and such an opinion cannot be tolerated as that is regarded as academic dishonesty.

Another issue is the tone and manner of condemning a vice. This is based of hikmah and wisdom. At times, the Quran condemns certain wrongs in certain ways, medium to harsh. This is based on what is best in the interest of that time and matter. An Aalim of Deen is imbued with hikmah. He exercises that hikmah and whatever he honestly feels between him and Allah is the most efficient tone in condemning a wrong, he does that.

The different ways of Ulama condemning wrongs, some with softness and others harshly etc. should be viewed in this light. Concentrate on the actual issue pointed out rather than focus on the style and tone.

When the laws of Shariah are violated and people, especially Ulama, keep quiet, that incurs the wrath of Allah. The silence of Ulama will lead to distortion of Shariah and Deen. Allah condemned the Ulama of the Yahood and Nasaara for keeping quiet against open violation of the Shariah. Rasulullah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said,

“This knowledge of Deen will be carried by just people from pious predecessors. They will refute distortions of extremists, refute baseless claims and wrong interpretations of ignorant people”.

And Allah knows best


Mufti Ebrahim Desai

Madrassah In’aamiyyah.

One thought on “Why The Mujlisul Ulama’ has “Harsh/Rude Attitude”??”


    Offensive though these terms may be, they are mild in comparison to “dumb lady”, “stupid aunt” and “dumb creature”, which is what Surtee’s fellow campaigner, Quraysha Ismail Sooliman, had to contend with from a Port Elizabeth-based aalim, Maulana AS Desai, in his monthly publication The Majlis. Desai is widely considered to be the harshest critic of “nonconformists” and has developed a reputation of being a lone ranger of sorts, even known to lash out at fellow ulama who hold contradictory views.

    When I sent him an email last month asking why he resorted to using derogatory language, his response was:

    “In the English language, after an exhaustive search of the dictionary, we failed to discover another term for a spade. We thus conclude that a spade must be called a spade – a moron a moron and a devil a devil. Of course, if you have managed to locate another word to exactly describe a spade, do not hesitate to apprise and educate us, for we believe in the principle of learning from the cradle to the grave.”

    He also suggested that I reflect on a statement he attributed to Faatimah, the daughter of the Prophet, in which she was reported to have said that it was best for a woman not to look at men and them not to look at her. “Should you spare a few moments to meditate on the ontological treasure delivered by the Queen of Jannat (Paradise), her message to Muslim womankind, then undoubtedly you will gain in sagacity and wish to retreat into a cave of concealment which will put you on to the path of divine proximity as opposed to your current path of Satanism.”


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